eliminate mirc

[Greatnuts]

if you eliminated mirc completely and made a stable irc client with all your features then i'd defianntly donate

[wickedwackguy]

Your an idiot. PERIOD. How can you say INVISON without MIRC? Do you know how much work that would be?! Not just that MIRC has the most important functions already built in. Not like clones such as bitchX and others. Other wise how can you be so ignorant? GRR just plain common sense is what you need.

[Greatnuts]

who said it wasn't gonna be a lot of work, i just find that mirc is a very buggy and crappy program. Its slow and causes system freezes on low end machines when theres server side issuses (net splits, botnet attacks). Even on my new custom built machine thats pretty damn fast, it lags me up. go test it yourself with a slow machine and lag up your comp, then load up a well programed irc like xchat and see if you need any huge protection scripts, wont lag you as much or if any. also it would be easier to port to linux if it wasn't in mirc. or vice-versa if made in linux. why do you have to be so ignorant of the other sides view. no point in calling me an idiot. take a look at the xdcc bot iroffer, great program, well made, does one thing that its made for, thats the type of fserv program i would want..but for now im stuck with several different mirc scripts until i take a few classes in programming this august and learn enough to make my own

(in no way am i critizing the invision script or any of the programmers that helped make it nor should i critize the makers of mirc because its a swell program for what they made it for. they just never imagined that there program would be used for viruses and attacks while making it.)

flame on

[wickedwackguy]

Well it shure sounded like it on your first note. anyways, i am running MIRC on a 233MMX and i have NO absolutly NO problems at all. i have even put LINUX on my box and used xchat xirc and bitchX. i have found all running good. but hey every computer is diffrent. if you are taking programming classes make shure you take JAVA so you can help my untalented ass at my JAVA version of INVISION. check out the developers corner for more details.

[Greatnuts]

i've already taken a java class, it was my worse experience ever and the worst language i've ever come across, i use to program in vb3 and i loved it compared to java. i've also done research on c/c++ and got a book about it, much nicer. much much....

system specs:
amd athlon 2600+ (2.08ghz)
1gig corsair ram
180gig wd hd w/ 8 buf
ati radeon 9800 pro series 128mb
sound blaster audigy 2 pro

and yes my comp lags when im in a 1500ppl channel and half of them leave from netsplits. turn off mirc, same netsplit, runs perfect on xchat for windoze

[NFC]

Well, if you like Invision and XChat, you can learn Perl language and "translate" invision into perl (or TCL).
But writing another IRC Client needs a lot of a work because of the security aspect. It's very very hard to write an IRC client without buffer overflows or something like that.
It needs a very good knwoledge in both programming and security.
I agree with you that it would be nicer to have most of invision features as native functions of an irc client but it takes time and I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if you read that due to a programming error all your datas are compromised.

And for iroffer, before saying it's well programmed, have a look at the source code. And if your opinion does not change, have a closer look

[wickedwackguy]

I know JAVA sux since you cant do much with it the same goes for VB. I have worked alot with PASCAL and PASCAL builds (DELPHI 7). The idea i had was making INVISION in JAVA because it is small and you can use it at work because you dont have to install it and the people who dont know how to install it right and, and, and... That was my whole idea of the thing it to be really SMALL.

If anybody has a book to suggest (somthing like: learn JAVA in 7 days) please tell me. The same goes for my little project. Please notify me if you are interested.

[^moonie^]

[Greatnuts]

I just signed up for my college courses yesterday and i've selected a the intro to programming for 4months, so i say less then 1 year from now, ill be set ~ 'if i stay with my computer programming major'
ps. i know 4months for introductory is long but im stuck with it because all the others need it as a prerequiste

[wickedwackguy]

good move GreatNuts. we really need some more ppl her that can somewhat wright a program. and me? well lets say i am waiting for a new computer until i start programming again. it isnt much fun to prgramm under a 233MMX.